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David Hill Speaks Out
Fox's Sports Czar Discusses ESPN, Soccer, TV Ratings & More
By
George Stahl
NEW
YORK (AQB)--In 1994, David Hill started Fox Sports from scratch.
Actually, to say Hill started Fox Sports from scratch, is assuming
that he had scratch. He had nothing.
Five
years later, Hill returns to Fox Sports - after finishing a three-year
gig as head of the whole network - to lead the new Fox Sports Television
Group, which includes the Fox network, and its Major League Baseball
and National Football League contracts, as well as Fox Sports Net,
a consortium of 22 regional sports cable channels that has contracts
with 70 professional teams.
In
a wide-ranging, 15-minute impromptu interview with ArmchairQB.com,
the 53-year-old Australian said he sees his new role as molding
Fox Sports with Fox Sports Net.
We
already see that happening with the recent announcement of Fox Sports
Net's new hourlong NFL This Morning, which will air at 11
a.m. Sundays. The show, co-hosted by Chris Myers and former Rams
lineman Jackie Slater, will flow into Fox's popular Fox NFL Sunday
and will employ Fox announcers such as John Madden, Matt Millen,
Bill Maas and Ron Pitts.
Between
the two pregame shows, Fox can now match ESPN's two-hour NFL
Countdown.
During
the interview with ArmchairQB.com, Hill discussed Fox's rivalry
with ESPN, why he doesn't worry about jobs and what his greatest
achievement is at Fox.
Is
there a big rivalry between Fox and ESPN?
You
get a bunch of guys together, and whether or not they’re playing
marbles, pinochle, knuckles, what are you going to have? Now you
get two bunches of guys doing sports television on cable - what
do you think is going to happen?
How
do you think Fox Sports News is doing against ESPN's SportsCenter?
I
think we got a ways... I think from a standing start three years
ago that there’s been some excellent strides made. I think that
Keith Olbermann is far and away the best sports broadcaster I’ve
ever seen anywhere in the world. I think he’s a genius. I think
we’ve got to put more investment into that particular area to get
it up to where I’d like to see it.
Like
Disney-owned ESPN, Fox owns part or all of some of the teams that
the network covers. Is this a conflict? [Note: Hill
has said that in his new position, he will not have any involvement
with the teams owned or partly owned by Fox Entertainment Group.]
Conflict
only develops if you don’t establish guidelines going in. The one
thing that we’ve been able to do in the company right from the get-go
is establish firm walls between the broadcast entities and the ownership
entities.
What
has been the biggest reason for the rise of Fox sports?
The
people that work for it.
How
much role do you have in hiring?
[laughs]
Fairly intense.
What
do you look for in potential Fox sports employees?
First
and foremost is that they have to have an unbelievably excellent
television sense before anything else. Before sports. They’ve got
to understand television and television production in its entirety.
And I can say this because I’ve worked around the world, but the
people that work at Fox Sports now, I think, is the best team in
the world.
Television
is never about one person. Television sports, especially, is really
a team game. It’s not really how good any one person is. You’ve
got to have that depth from top to bottom, and then you can make
it work.
If
there’s one thing I look for in a potential employee, it’s someone
who has fun doing what they’re doing. That they have a great sense
of humor and, to them, it’s not a job it’s a love.
Do
you love your new job?
Very
much. I really enjoy doing what I’m doing. Always have.
What
sport would you like to add to Fox's broadcasting lineup?
NASCAR.
... [Why?] Because I love it.
Any
chance you might get your wish?
Where
there’s life, there’s hope.
Would
you want to cover the Olympics?
Absolutely.
Of course. The Olympics are the greatest drama of all time. For
a production entity, it’s awesome. It’s what it’s all about.
Are
you worried at all about NBC/Turner Sports' new football league?
They
keep pushing it back. They way they’re going you’ll see it quite
soon that the starting date will be Memorial Day 2010.
What
do you think about NFL Europe?
What’s
really encouraging with that is the way the people have taken to
it. It really is encouraging how Europeans have gotten over the
mystic of American football because it’s so more complicated than
soccer, which is what they are used to. Once they understand it,
they love it. And there’s a very valuable lesson there in that no
one can presume that sports can’t be shifted without doing a huge
education process. But now that’s happened and, in Europe, people
have really taken to it and loving the game.
Do
you think the same thing could happen to soccer in the United States?
Soccer
won’t be big in the United States for at least another two generations.
Why?
Because
it will become part of the culture. It will be a niche sport - unfortunately,
because I love it - for a while but I believe it could be up there
with the NFL, but it’ll be in two generations.
I
can see the day coming in 40 years or 50 years where San Francisco
going to Dallas will be the top-rated sport in the country, but
it’ll be soccer. But that’s not going to happen in a while.
Are
you concerned about the declining ratings in sports?
No,
not at all. The bottom-line is that the consumer is now god. What
does annoy me is when so-called experts look at ratings and say,
“Oh, look, the ratings are down because in 1961, it had" ... whatever.
The consumer right now is absolutely king and god, and will continue
to be so.
If
the number of alternative entertainment forms available on a day-by-day
basis are increasing exponentially, then you can’t consider what
one championship did compared to a championship five years ago because
the competitive environment has probably changed.
For
example, ArmchairQB.com wasn’t on last time and that’s probably
going to take a lot of people’s attention off the games. He says
facetiously.
What
you’ve got to do is look at it against where we are at today. How
does this rate against ER? How does this rate against Frasier?
How does this rate against any other form of entertainment that’s
available to the general public right now, today? If you look at
that, sports is still god.
It’s
pointless saying, “Now, compared to a year ago or five years ago...”
The reason is there’s another 20 cable channels. There’s a new DVD.
There’s another 10 million Web sites. There’s someone sitting, downloading
CDs that they weren’t doing last year.
The
whole comparison is absolutely odious. You’ve got to compare across
the board with all other forms of entertainment. And when you look
at that, you realize that sports is still the strongest and still
the driving force in the entertainment world.
Do
you ever see the Super Bowl on pay-per-view?
No.
How
much longer do you see yourself at Fox?
Oh,
I don’t know. ... Ever since I started in this business, when I
was 19. I always thought I’d go back to working as a bricking laborer.
I never have any concerns about jobs because I’m a very good bricklayer’s
laborer.
What
are you the proudest about at Fox Sports?
The
proudest thing I think I’ve ever done in my life was creating the
box with the score and time in the corner. I was talking to a friend
of mine in Germany a couple weeks ago. He said, “Do you realize
that if you had patented this and you charged every television station
in the world that runs it - because they all do now - charged them
a dollar a minute," he said, "you’d never have to work
again?"
I
said, “I’d probably be buying a house next to Bill Gates.”
The
whole deal about sports television is about making the sports fan
as close to the action as possible. And if you sit in a stadium,
you always have a clock and a score there. So why not translate
that to the television screen? That was my thinking when I dreamed
the thing up.
So,
of everything I’ve done, I think that that is the greatest aid to
viewers. And if that’s what we’re in the business for, then that’s
what I’m most proud of.
What
is the future of sports television?
Holograms.
Holograms will be able to put you on the 50 yard line, and you’ll
see the game happening right on the table-top in front of you. Then
what’ll you have is huge speakers on either side, and you’ve got
all the audio coming through. And if you want a flat monitor, you
can have a flat monitor, which will give you replays when you hit
a button - and the players will do what they just done. And you
can either listen to it with commentary or without commentary.
How
close are we to that?
No
idea. If I knew, I wouldn’t be working.
Photo
courtesy of Fox Broadcasting Co.
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